Vee ([info]carnivee) wrote,
@ 2005-09-13 08:31:00
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Current music:Rip Rig & Panic - It Don't Mean A Thing
Entry tags:comedy, film&tv, music

How We Get Into Things
I'm interested in how people get into music, film, TV, theatre, books, etc. Often (especially if it's obscure) there is a story behind it, or a memory, or a string of other things.

For example, lately I've been listening to Rip Rig & Panic a lot (one of Neneh Cherry's pre-solo groups). I first heard them in an episode of "The Young Ones"; it was one of the two performances of the show that I really dug (the other being Amazulu).
...I got into "The Young Ones" as a natural progression in my path towards British comedy dorkdom- I'd been hearing about the show for a long-ass time until finally my good friend [info]littlemidget lent me (for what turned into a lot of years) the box-set.
...I got into British comedy first through "Absolutely Fabulous". When I got cable in 1998, I watched Comedy Central constantly, that was when the channel aired three episodes of "AbFab" every Saturday (or was it Sunday?) from 4-6pm.
...How I got into comedy... that I'll have to think about.

Tell me one of yours, please! :)


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Law and Order
(Anonymous)
2005-09-13 02:22 pm UTC (link)
I NEVER watched Law and Order for its first 13 years. When I moved to New York, all of a sudden it was interesting to me because I could see where the action took place. (Also, I had a roommate who had cable; I never really took and interest in paying for tv...I know I'm showing my age with that comment!) When I moved to my own place, I just HAD to get cable; the only stations I cared about was USA and TNT, both playing lots and lots of Law and Order episodes, including Law and Order, SVU, and Criminal Intent.

Over a year later, I am now mostly seeing episodes I've already seen; but my addiction continues. When the tv goes on, its to watch Law and Order - nothing else. Sometimes I hold my breath when I check channels 3 and 40. If Law and Order isn't on, I usually turn the tv off. Sometimes I scroll through the channels, like a lost puppy, whining for my show- having no interest in anything else.

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Re: Law and Order
[info]carnivee
2005-09-14 12:03 pm UTC (link)
thanks mom! ;)
(are you saying i had NOTHING to do with your obsession???)

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how i got into tori amos
[info]lovebettie
2005-09-13 06:46 pm UTC (link)
in 1996 the local alternative radio station was playing "caught a lite sneeze" often, as her boys for pele album had just come out. i was in the car with my mom the first time i heard it & i got obsessed, so i cassette taped it off of the radio and listened to it for weeks like that. finally i bought the album & realized that what i thought she was singing & what she was actually singing were 2 completely different things but that didnt matter.

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Re: how i got into tori amos
[info]carnivee
2005-09-14 12:05 pm UTC (link)
nice one!
what did you think she was singing?

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Re: how i got into tori amos
[info]lovebettie
2005-09-14 07:21 pm UTC (link)
oh gosh, i dont know even know! if you listen to the song you will hear that only a hardened tori fan would be able to know what is being said.

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[info]unbridled
2005-09-14 01:10 am UTC (link)
argh are you SURE you want to hear one of mine? hahaha

don't open that canoworms...

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[info]carnivee
2005-09-14 12:06 pm UTC (link)
i do i do i do! you in particular because you're into more obscure things as well. do tell.

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embarrassing
[info]unbridled
2005-09-14 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Um, lets see lets see. I'll try to come up with more than one if I can but I don't have many that are interesting.

In september of 2001 my friend jess visited and we went to see belle and sebastian in LA. While in Tempe we picked up copies of Venus magazine with Quasi on the cover. In the magazine was a review of 2 shannon wright cd's and 2 little pictures. I had never heard of this person but she looked somehow really interesting. I didn't think much of it for a while. bout a month later or so my friend sent me a letter recommending me some songs to download, 2 of them were shannon wright songs, so I tried them out. They were particularly affecting in some weird way and I started playing 'dirty facade' over and over and over. AT that time I had just had a string of horrible incidents relating to the relationship I got out of and I was extremely depressed and whatever she was saying was just working for me at that point. I promptly went out and bought her more recent album. I listened to it quite a lot for some months while taking sleeping pills and crying in bed because I was barely functional, until the memory association with sleeping pills made it difficult to listen to again.

later a friend lent me her 2 earlier albums and I got more obsessed and went out and bought one of them. another friend doing freelance music writing had a gig interviewing shannon for the local college paper and she had free tickets to the sleater-kinney/shannon show which I had noted with some interest while visiting tucson (more so for her than for s/k though i didn't mind seeing them either.) she offered to take me on her free journalist pass. the day of the show I was not feeling happy or well or awake and I considered not going at all, but at the last minute thought oh what the hell. so we went to the show. and it would be hard to describe exactly what happened inside my brain during the hour or whatever that she was on stage but it ended with me feeling this burning need to personally thank her for what she was doing. and now I have seen her nine times in seven cities. thank you.

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Re: embarrassing
[info]carnivee
2005-09-23 12:50 am UTC (link)
nice one!!
how did you get into belle and sebby?

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Re: embarrassing
[info]unbridled
2005-09-23 12:55 am UTC (link)
Heard them on the public radio show on KDHX... took a while to warm up to it, but I taped a couple songs for a friend of mine. She got WAY hardcore into them from that and it rubbed off on me... haha.

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Re: embarrassing
[info]carnivee
2005-09-23 01:01 am UTC (link)
when was this, can i ask?

i like to compare myself to other b&s fans, because i'm a pretty early fan for an american. ;) i like to make it a competition, basically. "ha ha, i got into them before you, neener neener." i have this weird ownership over them (b&s) whenever i talk to "newer" fans... LOL. i'm horrible.

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Re: embarrassing
[info]unbridled
2005-09-23 03:09 pm UTC (link)
1997 maybe? sometime around when Sinister was getting around over here but before they ever toured, cos we saw them on their first american tour. i had heard of them over the internet before I heard their music but it took me a while to catch on. and i'm pretty much used to everyone being into stuff before me, so it's not a big deal... i dont' think of myself as an oldtyme b&s fan or anything although I did lose interest after FYHCHYWLAP (fishyclap) and saw them with all the original members intact :(

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Re: embarrassing
[info]carnivee
2005-09-24 12:39 pm UTC (link)
impressive! well i think of you as a old-school b&s fan (american relativity). i got into them in 98, from this fancy-schmancy actor who, when he wasn't working, which was often (he took random film roles to pay the bills, and lived simply so he didn't have to work all the time), would spend a lot of time in the uk and ireland. that's how he heard of them.

it's unfortunate, but i've somewhat lost interest, too... when i do listen to them it's usually their early stuff- the lazy jane box set, tigermilk... sinister was the first i heard of them so that holds a lot of memories... and i do like their newer stuff (fishyclap, nice ;)), but not nearly as much...

i had a conversation with my psych prof about them, because she has a similar take on them, and we both got into the decemberists because they were recommended to us as b&s fans. and both of our "fanness" of the decemberists has skyrocketted, particuarly with picaresque, and we see them as a band that's definitely getting better with time. whereas b&s is definitely not. i mean and obviously they've been around for longer, and the line-up change and all that- when fishyclap came out i just thought that maybe it was a fluke, this change, but then catastrophe came out and it became an undeniable pattern. i'm not even saying it's not good, i just like the old b&s better. :)

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Re: embarrassing
[info]unbridled
2005-09-24 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Fishyclap was a nickname used on the Sinister mailing list "back in the day", along with "Twattybus" (TBWTAS) and "Gender Wars" for Gentle Waves (i think.)

I wish I knew where it started with their decline, I think Murdoch let too many others have a hand in the soup, I really strongly disliked "Chickfactor" and that Spaceboy whatever song on Arab Strap despite liking most of the album quite well. ANd Catastrophe Waitress... I dont' even know what to say about that, what I have heard of it sounded like some alternate universe charicature of the band or something. I couldn't get into it at ALL. I still like Sinister and Tigermilk and the first EP's, and some other scattered songs along the way. It does seem like the Decemberists will have more staying power. It's really a shame. a damn shame.

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Re: embarrassing
[info]carnivee
2005-09-24 08:33 pm UTC (link)
i think you're probably right- it's murdoch's stuff that was really the kicker for me. his lyrics and his music have had such an impact on my life.

i did like stuart david's stuff (spaceboy), not as much of course, though he is very different stylistically, and so in a way his leaving to do more looper wasn't so bad. i'm all about looper.

and then of course, my pet-peeve... beyond the sunrise!? i shudder at the memory.

dcw has some gems, or almost-gems if you're comparing it to b&s history. when listening to it i kinda have to forget who it's coming from, you know? otherwise i get nostalgic and will just change it to the early stuff. :) but if i'm in more of an upbeat kind of mood it can be nice. and there's a riff in the last track, "stay loose", that always gets to me. and "piazza new york catcher" or whatever is nice cuz it's more their old style.

do you like the other lps (outside of the 3 lazy jane box set ones) that i don't know as well? like legal man, modern rock song, waking up to us?

it is a shame about b&s, but i guess all things have their place, right? maybe it's kinda how i feel about abfab- the newer series will compare to the original 3, because it was just so set in a particular time period. there are of course things that transcend time, but b&s doesn't seem to be one of those things. someone describe them to me as "extending their adolesence as far as it could go" and maybe now, they're all pushing or have past 30, it's officially stretched. ;)

that also does seem to be a phenomenon of people that start projects like that when they're younger- whereas the decemberists aren't as young (i don't know how old they are, but not one of them looks less than late 20s).

blah blah blah!!!

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Re: embarrassing
[info]unbridled
2005-09-24 08:43 pm UTC (link)
Piazza NYC is not bad, I've only heard it once though. I liked it more than other stuff I heard from DCW, but that one song... the uh... mailroom song, or whatever? God. Tv theme song? It's not BAD, but... urghh. Know what I mean?

I like the other Ep's too for the most part, including waking up to us, modern rock song... legal man not so much, it had that godawful instrumental on it... and shockingly, i really like "Jonathon David" and the other songs on that one. OK I also like "wandering alone"... with those two Stevie sort of redeems himself, as much as I despise Chickfactor and The Wrong Girl (UGHH!!) And I am a fan of some of the Gentle Waves songs too.

AbFab has a new season??

I don't remember Beyond The Sunrise... was that on Fishyclap? I really dislike "family tree" and a couple other songs on there that I can't remember. Oh, The Wrong Girl. I hate that goddamn song. WHen I found out they were putting it on an album, having already had more than my fill of live recordings, I was like NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! DAMN YOU STEVIE!!!!!! It has a nice chorus but that's about it.

I can take or leave Looper, I suppose... I saw them live in DC but dont' remember much about it, but I have a picture of Stuart David with lighted glasses on.

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